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Pisolino
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High derive values

Post by Pisolino »

Hi all,
i'm running steady state MRF simulations (so 2 volume coupled) with saturne, some of them don't reach convergence and diverge easily.

My approach is :

Prepare mesh -> run few iterations with k-eps (i'm using air inside an oven) with scalable wall function -> check y+

if it's too big ( >300) -> remesh with finer elements at the wall where y+ is high -> check again with few iterations and if necessary rmesh again

if in the first iterations (10-15) y+ seems to be ok but then velocity increase a lot until divergence -> relaxation 0.5.

Often this doesn't help a lot... i would like to set relaxation = 0.01 but then pressure relax = 0.99 (1-0.01) so it's not helpful.

And again the derive values are very high (> e+6 ).

What can i do as strategy? How can go further in analising my mesh/simulation?

I'm quite a newbie of cfd so i would like all of your suggestions !!
Thank you

Andrea
Andrea
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Jacques Fontaine
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Re: High derive values

Post by Jacques Fontaine »

Hello,

Did you try the steady algorithm IDTVAR = 2 (time step variable in space and in time) ?

Regards,
JF
Pisolino
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Re: High derive values

Post by Pisolino »

hi, i'm using CS 3.0 beta.
So i can't find anymore this option, maybe i can use SIMPLEC algorithm instead of SIMPLE. is this what you mean?
Andrea
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site: www.argosrl.eu
Jacques Fontaine
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Re: High derive values

Post by Jacques Fontaine »

Hello,

Yes,

Steady + SIMPLEC

Regards,
JF
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